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In a situation like this in Oregon, aren’t the Gay and Lesbian communities coming off as their own worst enemies?
At last check isn’t someone’s wedding supposed to be a couple’s “perfect day”, yet instead, these particular Lesbians choose to make a “political statement” over them being discriminated against by a Christian-owned bakery. Is this what “true love” is all about?
In Nashua NH, for example, you’ve got at least a dozen bakeries listed in the phone book — most of which have great reviews on Yelp — that I’m sure would be more than happy to accommodate a Gay or Lesbian wedding if a Christian baker should refuse their business. I’m fairly certain that you’ve got the same bakery business type situation in that community in Oregon. Why not just patronize the business’ competition rather than making a Federal case out of the thing — ESPECIALLY on one’s Wedding Day????!!!
Also, have you noticed that Gays and Lesbians NEVER push Muslims for discrimination like they do with Christians? First of all, no court in the United States would ever want to “offend” anyone practicing the Muslim religion; and secondly, the Gay or Lesbian couple would probably fear “losing their heads” (or maybe something just as violent) at the hands of a Muslim business owner who staunchly still believes in Sharia Law.
Furthermore, didn’t former FOX News CEO Roger Ailes DISCRIMINATE for at least a couple decades when hiring female on-air personalities as attractive, voluptuous women who were “required” to wear short skirts and stiletto high heels on TV? Ditto, with the female waitresses working at Hooter’s Restaurants? Gimme a break.
(The following are responses I recently posted on another WordPress forum titled, ‘violetwisp’, which is also the pseudonym of the Moderator running that site. I can only assume that’s a forum for predominately homosexuals, or Atheists, or both – I haven’t really figured it out yet. I find it a little bizarre that the people on that site enjoy taking ‘cheap shots’ at Christians, YET nothing directed at Muslims or the Quran. Gee, I wonder why?
Notice too, you never hear of any homosexuals suing Muslim mosques, bakeries, caterers, photographers, or pizza parlors for refusing to service a Same-Sex marriage ceremony? I guess the homosexuals are worried about ‘losing their heads’ or something like that, but this does beg the question: Why isn’t the American Muslim community facing the same legal pressure as their Christian counterparts when it comes to being “forced” to accommodate a homosexual wedding? Sounds like a little bit of a ‘double-standard’ here.
Getting back to this first posting I put on the violetwisp site, I think the Moderator was asking about what should a homosexual, who converts to Christianity and vows to make Jesus Christ the Lord and Savior in their life, do if they still experience homosexual tendencies? Personally, I gave violetwisp the best answer I possibly could. If anybody has any other suggestions, I’m all ears.)
First thing’s first – you’re never going to ever experience how God plans to deliver you from homosexuality, or anything else, until you make Jesus Christ your personal Lord and Savior. Please check out: Romans 10:9-10 .
Secondly, when you pray for Jesus to come into your life, think RELATIONSHIP, don’t think of a MAGICAL QUICK FIX. You’re absolutely delusional if you assume that making Jesus the Lord and Savior in your life is going to be like a: magical, fairy tale, soap opera. You’re not going to become a Robot from this experience, you’re still very much a Creature of Free Will. Let’s get honest here, in any successful relationship or marriage there’s literally tons of compromises and forgiveness.
There’s no set BLUEPRINT or FORMULA, which God uses for miracles or healing. As crazy as this might sound, God will deal with you and your situation uniquely different from anybody else. Think of it as there are no two snowflakes, or blades of grass, or fingerprints, that are exactly the same. One homosexual might be fully delivered from their sin in a couple of days, another homosexual might not be fully delivered from their sin for a couple of years. Ditto with having cancer: some people are healed from it, while others die from it. In the end, it’ll all be to God’s glory.
Struggling with sin isn’t just limited to homosexuals – alcoholics, cocaine addicts, compulsive gamblers, pathological liars, fornicators, adulterers, thieves, murderers, heck, even seemingly “normal” people ALL struggle with sin. As I mentioned before on the other Thread in this same forum, with the exception of Jesus Christ, every single man and woman mentioned in the Bible sinned and fell short of the Glory of God, at some point, but God forgave a lot of them who came to Him with a meek and humble heart and, at least, tried their best to follow God’s Will.
If you happen to fall into sin, ask God for forgiveness and move on to do His Will. If a church ex-communicates you because of your sin, just find another church. It doesn’t matter how many times you fall on your backside, what REALLY matters is how many times you get back up and move on. One of the biggest attributes of God is that He’s very FORGIVING and is willing to forgive you over and over and over again.
Don’t just take my word for it, check it out for yourselves.
Contrary to TV evangelist Joel Osteen’s best selling book, ‘Having Your Best Life Now’, for a born-again Christian, their “best life” will be AFTER they’re dead and buried and get to spend all eternity in Heaven with the Lord. God doesn’t love or respect the Christian martyrs who were recently beheaded by ISIS terrorists any less than Christians who live into their 90s or older. It’s all a matter of perspective with God.
Lastly, here’s some great words of wisdom and inspiration by Justin Peters: “If you want to hear from God, then read the Bible; if you want to hear from God audibly, then read the Bible out loud.”
Here are the Bible verses I use to substantiate my view on Homosexuality:
1 Timothy 1:8-11 We know that the law is good if one uses it properly. We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, for the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine that conforms to the gospel concerning the glory of the blessed God, which he entrusted to me.
God’s Wrath Against Sinful Humanity — Romans 1:18-32
The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.
For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.
Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.
Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice.
They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
Sodom and Gomorrah Destroyed — Genesis 19:1-17, 23-28
The two angels arrived at Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gateway of the city. When he saw them, he got up to meet them and bowed down with his face to the ground.
“My lords,” he said, “please turn aside to your servant’s house. You can wash your feet and spend the night and then go on your way early in the morning.” “No,” they answered, “we will spend the night in the square.”
But he insisted so strongly that they did go with him and entered his house. He prepared a meal for them, baking bread without yeast, and they ate.
Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom — both young and old — surrounded the house. They called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.”
Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him and said, “No, my friends. Don’t do this wicked thing. Look, I have two daughters who have never slept with a man. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do what you like with them. But don’t do anything to these men, for they have come under the protection of my roof.” “Get out of our way,” they replied. “This fellow came here as a foreigner, and now he wants to play the judge! We’ll treat you worse than them.”
They kept bringing pressure on Lot and moved forward to break down the door. But the men inside reached out and pulled Lot back into the house and shut the door. Then they struck the men who were at the door of the house, young and old, with blindness so that they could not find the door.
The two men said to Lot, “Do you have anyone else here—sons-in-law, sons or daughters, or anyone else in the city who belongs to you? Get them out of here, because we are going to destroy this place. The outcry to the LORD against its people is so great that he has sent us to destroy it.”
So Lot went out and spoke to his sons-in-law, who were pledged to marry his daughters. He said, “Hurry and get out of this place, because the LORD is about to destroy the city!” But his sons-in-law thought he was joking. With the coming of dawn, the angels urged Lot, saying, “Hurry! Take your wife and your two daughters who are here, or you will be swept away when the city is punished.”
When he hesitated, the men grasped his hand and the hands of his wife and of his two daughters and led them safely out of the city, for the LORD was merciful to them. As soon as they had brought them out, one of them said, “Flee for your lives! Don’t look back, and don’t stop anywhere in the plain!
Flee to the mountains or you will be swept away!”… …By the time Lot reached Zoar, the sun had risen over the land. Then the LORD rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah—from the LORD out of the heavens. Thus he overthrew those cities and the entire plain, destroying all those living in the cities—and also the vegetation in the land. But Lot’s wife looked back, and she became a pillar of salt. Early the next morning Abraham got up and returned to the place where he had stood before the LORD. He looked down toward Sodom and Gomorrah, toward all the land of the plain, and he saw dense smoke rising from the land, like smoke from a furnace.
I love this video for a couple of reasons: It gets down to the fundamental problems between the Jews and Muslims within 11-and-a-half minutes presented in a clear and concise fashion, and the artist doing the sketches in this video is unbelievably good.